Comments on: The NBA Salary Cap and You, Part II: The Deep, the Cheap and the Stupid http://howtowatchsports.com/2009/09/the-nba-salary-cap-and-you-part-ii-the-deep-the-cheap-and-the-stupid/ Unnecessarily in-depth sports analysis Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:47:43 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: jon http://howtowatchsports.com/2009/09/the-nba-salary-cap-and-you-part-ii-the-deep-the-cheap-and-the-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-145 jon Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:21:48 +0000 http://howtowatchsports.com/?p=771#comment-145 http://www.nba.com/news/salarycap_070710.html Something I did not realize was that luxury tax level and the salary cap are two different things. Regardless of that mistake, my memory served me correctly. Need proof? Here it is : http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/93612 "Before the [Kurt Thomas] deal, Phoenix’s payroll sat at $78.5 million, more than $10 million above the league’s new $67.9 million, dollar-for-dollar luxury tax threshold for 2007-08." So really Sarver DID save about $17 million by trading Kurt away. http://www.nba.com/news/salarycap_070710.html

Something I did not realize was that luxury tax level and the salary cap are two different things. Regardless of that mistake, my memory served me correctly. Need proof? Here it is : http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/93612
“Before the [Kurt Thomas] deal, Phoenix’s payroll sat at $78.5 million, more than $10 million above the league’s new $67.9 million, dollar-for-dollar luxury tax threshold for 2007-08.” So really Sarver DID save about $17 million by trading Kurt away.

]]> By: Alex McVeigh http://howtowatchsports.com/2009/09/the-nba-salary-cap-and-you-part-ii-the-deep-the-cheap-and-the-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-142 Alex McVeigh Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:24:36 +0000 http://howtowatchsports.com/?p=771#comment-142 Being overpaid doesn't make you a cancer, but being selfish on the court and burning bridges off the court does. Being overpaid doesn’t make you a cancer, but being selfish on the court and burning bridges off the court does.

]]> By: Alex McVeigh http://howtowatchsports.com/2009/09/the-nba-salary-cap-and-you-part-ii-the-deep-the-cheap-and-the-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Alex McVeigh Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:19:05 +0000 http://howtowatchsports.com/?p=771#comment-141 Not sure where you're getting you're numbers from. In 2005-06, the luxury tax was $61.7 million, and the Suns payroll was $53.6 million. Six teams paid the tax that season. In 2006-07, the luxury tax was $65.4 million, and the Suns were at $63.8 million. Five teams paid the tax that season. The Suns didn't enter the luxury tax territory until they picked up Shaq, and even then, they were only over the tax by $3.9 million, while seven teams had higher payroll than them. I would certainly call selling draft picks to save money foolish, particularly when Phoenix's championship window closed as fast as it did. Not sure where you’re getting you’re numbers from.

In 2005-06, the luxury tax was $61.7 million, and the Suns payroll was $53.6 million. Six teams paid the tax that season.

In 2006-07, the luxury tax was $65.4 million, and the Suns were at $63.8 million. Five teams paid the tax that season.

The Suns didn’t enter the luxury tax territory until they picked up Shaq, and even then, they were only over the tax by $3.9 million, while seven teams had higher payroll than them.

I would certainly call selling draft picks to save money foolish, particularly when Phoenix’s championship window closed as fast as it did.

]]> By: Phoenix Stan http://howtowatchsports.com/2009/09/the-nba-salary-cap-and-you-part-ii-the-deep-the-cheap-and-the-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Phoenix Stan Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:46:46 +0000 http://howtowatchsports.com/?p=771#comment-140 The Suns haven't been below the luxury tax in years and they are still not this year. Phoenix has made a lot of mistakes but they've spent more money doing it than almost any other team. Certainly they've been in the top 5 or 8 in total payroll. That's not cheap even if some of the moves have been foolish. The Suns haven’t been below the luxury tax in years and they are still not this year.

Phoenix has made a lot of mistakes but they’ve spent more money doing it than almost any other team. Certainly they’ve been in the top 5 or 8 in total payroll. That’s not cheap even if some of the moves have been foolish.

]]> By: jon http://howtowatchsports.com/2009/09/the-nba-salary-cap-and-you-part-ii-the-deep-the-cheap-and-the-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-139 jon Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:12:29 +0000 http://howtowatchsports.com/?p=771#comment-139 About the Phx Suns - Sarver took over as majority owner in 2004, so really the good moves in drafting stoudemire and marion were never his to claim. Also the Kurt Thomas trade saved Sarver $20 million since they were still over the cap, but the really damaging thing which should be mentioned is that they had to trade away two of their future first round picks to make Seattle take on the extra salary. Really the Suns' misuse of their draft picks cant' all be blamed on Sarver. D'Antoni was notorious for using short rotations. Rookies and bench players really only got to see playing time when injuries occurred or during trash time. So Sarver's penny pinching and D'Antoni's coaching style/ideologue were both instrumental in bringing down the Suns. I'm not sure which wagged the dog first though. About the Phx Suns – Sarver took over as majority owner in 2004, so really the good moves in drafting stoudemire and marion were never his to claim. Also the Kurt Thomas trade saved Sarver $20 million since they were still over the cap, but the really damaging thing which should be mentioned is that they had to trade away two of their future first round picks to make Seattle take on the extra salary.
Really the Suns’ misuse of their draft picks cant’ all be blamed on Sarver. D’Antoni was notorious for using short rotations. Rookies and bench players really only got to see playing time when injuries occurred or during trash time. So Sarver’s penny pinching and D’Antoni’s coaching style/ideologue were both instrumental in bringing down the Suns. I’m not sure which wagged the dog first though.

]]> By: sleepy http://howtowatchsports.com/2009/09/the-nba-salary-cap-and-you-part-ii-the-deep-the-cheap-and-the-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-138 sleepy Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:55:40 +0000 http://howtowatchsports.com/?p=771#comment-138 Since when does being overpaid make someone like Jamal Crawford a cancer ? If the MLE is the average salary of all nba players and its almost 6 million per year than how is someone making 8-9 and who is a highly productive player some how being overpaid ? Since when does being overpaid make someone like Jamal Crawford a cancer ? If the MLE is the average salary of all nba players and its almost 6 million per year than how is someone making 8-9 and who is a highly productive player some how being overpaid ?

]]> By: The NBA Salary Cap and You: An Overview, Part I | How To Watch Sports http://howtowatchsports.com/2009/09/the-nba-salary-cap-and-you-part-ii-the-deep-the-cheap-and-the-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-136 The NBA Salary Cap and You: An Overview, Part I | How To Watch Sports Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:17:55 +0000 http://howtowatchsports.com/?p=771#comment-136 [...] salary mumbo-jumbo, you might be wondering how this all affects the game on a day-to-day basis. In part two of this article, I’ll examine some teams that are famous for letting the cap dictate their personnel moves, as [...] [...] salary mumbo-jumbo, you might be wondering how this all affects the game on a day-to-day basis. In part two of this article, I’ll examine some teams that are famous for letting the cap dictate their personnel moves, as [...]

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