Allen Iverson and the Virtue of Selfishness

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17 comments for “Allen Iverson and the Virtue of Selfishness”

  1. atanasAugust 20, 2009, 8:25 am

    awesome article
    i like how you use the fountain head in relation to iverson

    its a shock that just last year this guy put up 50 points in a game and people are considering him washed up and too old. hes still as explosive as ever

  2. Cecil R. WilliamsAugust 20, 2009, 9:12 am

    Wow! What an article. Thanks. Two questions: 1)Would Mr. Iverson appreciate his name on the same web page as Ayn Rand’s name? 2)Would the game improve if all players adopted Iverson’s attitude? (In fact, all games, in fact, all businessmen, and in fact all of us in the ‘business’ of living?)
    CRW

    • Roger PimentelAugust 20, 2009, 9:30 am

      1. Not sure… I’m not sure there are terribly many people that would throw a party at being tied to Ayn Rand. Her books are interesting, at any rate, even if the ideas are a bit much.

      2. This is a great question – the Adam Smith economics angle is pretty strong. The Celtics had three creators in their title run (Garnett, Pierce, Allen), and it never felt like anybody was stepping on anybody else’s toes.

      I’m a big believer in putting the ball in the basket, and it seems like teams occasionally put more emphasis on the system than on the result. Allen Iverson is results-oriented, and in that sense I do think that more players could use his attitude.

  3. JudyAugust 20, 2009, 9:24 am

    This is really a well thought out article – very good. What the hell is wrong with the NBA? It almost seems like they
    Are in this together. Come on get this exciting player a team and let him be starter. For God’s sake at least let him compete for the starting role. It’s the American way! I’ll be the first in line to buy that jersey!

  4. SharbythebeachAugust 20, 2009, 10:49 am

    It’s obvious that Mr. Pimentel has great insight as to what should constitute the rational motive behind any truly outstanding personal athletic achievement. Rational egoism is behind so many of the highest accomplishments we admire in America. The problem is, those values which help men to rise to their finest ability in some aspect of their lives are ignored when they deal with reality in other realms. Religion denies the virtue of selfishness and lauds altruistic self sacrifice. It’s what short circuits too many lives of otherwise great men of achievement. If life is the standard of value by which men judge the virtue of their actions, then concepts which denigrate man’s life are not virtuous, they are evil.
    Mr. Pimentel, yours is an outstanding article.

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  6. josephAugust 20, 2009, 4:33 pm

    this was a great article and i appreciated it. with that said i don’t know if i agree with the selfishness part. sometime we need to make sacrifice and order to achieve one’s goal. if AI’s goal is to out as a starter then ok but if his goal is to go out as a champion, he needs to make the sacrifice and accept that there will be a time where he will not be able to start. i can honestly say that right now is not the time because he can still drop 25 a game. someone like that cannot come off the bench.

  7. Omar grovesAugust 20, 2009, 5:44 pm

    Tru Words….it don’t get no realer than this. at some point men who claim to be men…need to Man up & end whatever blacklist or diabolical agenda the have…Aided & abetted by a media that thrives off negatives…Ones Man Life hangs in the Balance…At some point they should ask themselves why are his Team mates so loyal to him, His Fans are the most Loyal fans in any sport, almost rivaling fanatic euro soccer fans… do they wonder why..Its not just what he does on the court but who he is & his Struggles, I am one of those Fans…Not a Gangster…No Tattoos, only listen rap if its gospel. nut he is something thats missing in the NBA… REAL, imperfect, not the image conscious, superstars, so wat, He ditched practice every now & then, we call in sick @ work too Big Deal, Denver added 4 more players (Nene, Chauncy,Dontay Jones & Birdman) & won 4 more games..Big Deal.. The sports writes Know this circumstancial trick & shamelessly exploit it. Larry Brown has been campaigning on his behalf & in Denver he was a model citizen & a locker room favorite..No Cancer, No chemistry Killer..His Starting Point gaurd A Carter, is now a back up…Point is He Got them to 50 wins with less than Chauncey who Got them to 54 wins…See the Light People. & If i was in Philly all those years playing with those guys, I’d be “selfish” too if you wanna call it that

  8. Omar grovesAugust 20, 2009, 5:47 pm

    Good article though… a rare 1 but Good

  9. Joseph KellardAugust 21, 2009, 3:52 am

    Iverson does not deserve to be mentioned with Howard Roark, the heroic main character of Ayn Rand’s classic novel “The Fountainhead.”
    First and foremost, while Iverson was a very good player, he was never innovative in his sport the way Roark is in his profession. Michael Jordan is a better comparison — but even with him, I would never compare him with an innovative, architectural genius such as Roark.
    By comparing Roark with Iverson, you’ve tried to raise Iverson to a status he certainly does not deserve.

    • ShepMarch 11, 2010, 10:47 am

      You seem to like Howard Roark a lot. Please be aware that he is a fictional character, meant to represent an ideal. Also, if I smack his silly bottom, he gone cry. Allen Iverson wouldn’t, having been slapped before, in the real world.

  10. sd98skd9August 21, 2009, 7:07 am

    In one sense I’m excited to see this article, as it uses the philosophy of the 20th century’s greatest thinker to bring a proper ethics (rational egoism) into the realm of sports.

    On the other hand, I’m disappointed because the author fails entirely. He essentially conflates selfishness and selflessness by equating Howard Roark (one of literature’s greatest hero’s) with Allen Iverson, one of the sports world’s most selfless (i.e. self destructive) players in recent history.

    Read Ayn Rand’s The Virtue of Selfishness for a proper understanding of these terms.

  11. Joe KaneAugust 21, 2009, 1:23 pm

    While I appreciate the Ayn Rand reference, I agree with Mr. Kellard above that it’s a bit of a stretch to compare AI to Roark. I can forgive that though because of the essentially positive light in which you portray the rational selfishness needed to excel at sports or anything else.

    Tiger Woods, who actually is an Ayn Rand fan is a GREAT example of selfishness in action.

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  13. zevSeptember 9, 2009, 5:50 pm

    Although I’m a big fan of Ayn Rand’s ethics of selfishness, in a team game it is not automatically “unselfish” to coordinate, or even be a role player. Selfishness refers to your fundamental values which you choose in the context of your life and knowledge. The practical pursuit of those values could come by means that most would deem “unselfish”. Sometimes passing is selfish. Sometimes being a ball-hog is unselfish because it derails the ultimate goal. I don’t think AI is selfish in the sense I mean here.

  14. SBarrettSeptember 13, 2009, 10:18 pm

    It is funny to hear people say that Allen Iverson is not innovative when he re-defined how a generation of Basketball players dress and wear their hair. He also is always scape-goated and will never be appreciated until he is no longer in the league…Kobe may be another Jordan (Not Realy) but there may really never be another player like Allen Iverson…ever!

  15. Loren RobinsonNovember 12, 2009, 1:38 pm

    This is a good article. Allen Iverson is a man of principle. He is honest and he always will be himself.
    There is a link to a article below this sentence that describes how is a very misunderstood.

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1773902/allen_iverson_rebel_without_a_cause.html?cat=14

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